Well, it’s 2:15 am in the UK as I’m writing this, and the results for my region are in.
I try to be an unbiased in absolutely everything I write, even wall posts on Facebook groups – but it is a sad day for the Northwest. Nick Griffin, the leader of the BNP, has won a seat in the European Parliament. Watch out Brussels, here comes the leader of an institutionally racist party.
I would normally say about such an organisation that there are two sides to everything. Because of course, racist people will join a party like the BNP and that is unavoidable for them. A party that “cares” about the British people is the party that you would join if you hated foreigners, and for a party to survive, it must allow members to join without asking questions. Fair enough. And there is surely the argument that democracy must allow people of any opinion to have those opinions voiced. I agree, on the one hand, that we should look after our own first and people from other countries second.
(However, I would never leave somebody in need, for example an asylum seeker, to fend for themselves in a fascist extreme dictatorship – so the BNP is out of the question for me. I want our own problems to take priority, but never to ignore the problems of others. But that’s another story.)
The problem with the BNP, and this is my warning for Europeans who are not familiar with them, is that we know very high-ranking elements within the party are racist thugs. ARE racist thugs, proven fact, no legal liability for me here. If you have time and the inclination, take a look at the Guardian’s article investigating senior officials of the party.
I know, personally, one guy that voted for the BNP this year. Before I discovered this, I was having a bit of political banter with him. He knows my journalistic background so he knows I’m knowledgeable when it comes to the topic. I was encouraging people to vote on 4th June and we got talking about the BNP.
“They’re the only party making an effort for us. They know we are worried about jobs and immigration and the BNP are the only ones who are putting it out there that they will sort us out.” I understand, I told him. But do you realise that they are targeting people like you and not telling you everything? Have you done any research on other parties, to see if there are any that want to fight for you but aren’t as intolerant of race?
“They aren’t as racist as everyone says,” he tells me. “I agree with their policies so I can’t see another option.” I explained the proven links to racist violence and disgusting comments that have been uncovered.
After about 15 minutes, I’d won him over. His opinion had changed now he had information other than the marketed leaflets posted through his door. But he looks sad. “It’s too late.”
Postal vote.
I blame first and foremost the competing parties for not educating the public. Sure, their “education” would be biased and possibly dismissed as a smear-campaign. But it would inspire people to investigate. No smoke without fire and all! And competitors stand to benefit the most from this!
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“A party that “cares” about the British people is the party that you would join if you hated foreigners”
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That seems an odd thing to say. Why?
Well because if you are racist, where is your other option?
Helena,
OK, but all British parties claim to care about the British people; they wouldn’t get far if they didn’t.
If you hate foreigners presumably you vote for a party with xenophobia policies.
Like the BNP?
Precisely. Xenophobic like the BNP. Much is being made of the rhetoric over how the BNP are listening to “the people” but all they are doing is feeding the fear and frustration of the disenfranchised working class and giving them false hope.
Shame on the Government for letting it come to this.
When I say a party that “cares” about the British people (see quote marks), I mean a xenophobic party, see? They say they care about Brits, but what they REALLY care about is pushing away non-Brits and brown people
Agreed Tim, imagine what the election results would’ve looked like if government and politics was taught to an acceptable degree in secondary schools! A country where everybody knows how things work and how to read between the lines of a manifesto!
Somebody really hated this article! I remember seeing a 5.00 rating first, and now its 2.75! I think the BNP are among us!
QUOTE (Helena said): “A party that “cares” about the British people is the party that you would join if you hated foreigners” UNQUOTE
QUOTE (Helena said): “When I say a party that “cares” about the British people (see quote marks), I mean a xenophobic party, see?” UNQUOTE
So you mean “a xenophobic party is the party that you would join if you hated foreigners”.
This is what I thought you meant, but it is tautology. It is using different words to say the same thing twice.
No no, that is not what I meant to write. The quote marks are in the right place. “Cares” is being used sarcastically as this is what they say they are doing.
I had an interesting discussion with my parents about political education in schools. I was absolutely furious that the BNP got two seats and began ranting about how I came out of school knowing what the Romans did for Britain but not what each political party stood for. They hit back with how easy it would be to manipulate this. I mean we know that Andrew Brons was a university lecturer and I’m sure there are other BNP supporters in the education sector, education could also be a bad thing for politics. Even if a teacher supported Labour or Lib Dem or Green it is still unfair if they were to manipulate their roll to gain young supporters. I couldn’t really argue with them on that!
Good point,but I think the curriculum could easily be created to only teach how voting and the structure of government works. I mean come on, religion is a compulsory subject and state schools manage to teach it perfectly objectively. If you want to argue that teachers may abuse the system, why don’t we consider religious schools in the argument. The Christian and Muslim schools aren’t under onligation to teach about any other religions!! The kids are therefore brainwashed! What say ye Olivia?
By the way I’m typing this on an iPod touch which is why the spelling is atrocious haha
Muslims killed by Labour + Tories + G.W.Bush = 800,000. Muslims killed by the BNP = None. The BNP always opposed the war. I think I know who the racists are.
And when have the BNP had anywhere near the amount of power required to order troops?! Don’t be ridiculous - plus, how many BNP supporters think it’s acceptable to beat an asian person to within an inch of his life just for being in “their” country?
Oh wait, I think I remember a time when they did have that kind of power………………
Helena: I think it’s pretty obvious that the BNP don’t have the political power to kill thousands of Muslims. My point was (and I think this is obvious to most people reading the above post of mine) that that HAD they had that power, they would not have invaded Iraq (and certainly not on the basis of doctored intelligence reports and a pack of lies).
Likewise, the average Labour MP does not have the power to kill thousands of Muslims, but those MPs who voted for the war are guilty of racist murder, and those who did not (like the BNP) are not guilty.
As to your claim “Oh wait, I think I remember a time when they did have that kind of power…” the suggestion here is not 100% clear, but presumably you’re making the snide suggestion that were the BNP in power it would repeat every single action of the 3rd Reich Nazis.
Well, for a start, one of the defining characteristics of Nazism 80 years ago was invading other countries for no good reason. On this score it seems Labour has more in common with the Nazis than the BNP.
Also, attributing policies to a political party which it does not actually espouse doesn’t carry a lot of weight with me or most other people. What caries far more weight is policies actually implemented: e.g. bombing Arab countries to smithereens for the oil (at least according to Alan Greenspan the war was “all about oil”). It seems that the BBC authorities are not in total disagreement with the “Greenspan” theory: witness that cartoon that appears at the start of each episode of “Have I Got News for You”.
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